Interview
with Lisa Von Drasek, Director of the Center for Children's Literature, Adjunct Faculty member, Children’s
Literature Specialist, and Children’s Librarian at Bank Street College of
Education. Lisa is also an ALSC board member, active member of ALA, and
blogger for School Library Journal, and EarlyWord.com.
Tell me one of the key things you try to teach future teachers
who study at Bank Street College?
Lisa: To not be too busy to read aloud. To make
reading aloud part of the day. We read aloud all the way through middle
school at our school. We model reading aloud for teachers who are
learning to be teachers.
Why
is it so important to read aloud to children?
Lisa: Ah, well, without reading aloud we won’t learn
to read. You won’t hear those words and have the awareness of the
sounds of the letters that make up a word. And it’s so important to
read aloud even after your child knows how to read for themselves
because you have a vocabulary that is vast compared to a six year old
emergent reader. So you’re building a listening vocabulary every time
you read aloud.
Also, it’s like what we say about fiction, as you go through a book,
you really can get into other people’s heads. For example, there is a
new book called Wonder about
a kid with a facial disfigurement. It’s told from his point of view,
the point of view of the sister, and the point of the view of his best
friend. 6th and 7th graders who hear this book read, start to live the
lives of these middle school children. A classroom teacher who reads
this book aloud gives children the permission and a safe place to hear
these words.
Do you feel it has more emotional impact when children hear a
book read aloud versus them reading it themselves?
Lisa: I’m
not sure about the emotional impact, but maybe you’re right. I think it
does. I think people forget how important it is that you are modeling.
As a teacher as a librarian or as a parent, you are being watched all
the time. You can’t control everything. Of the smallest things you do,
you don’t know which one of those things will make a child think, “Oh,
that’s it.”
I taught a child years and years ago, who had been born with cerebral
palsy. She had difficulties speaking, but she made friends and was
integrated as part of the classroom community. Years later I ran into
her on vacation and she started telling her mom the story I read aloud
when she was in the 3rd grade. Then she said, “Oh, you never finished
the Tale of Despereaux!” She must have missed the last class. But the
point is, you just don’t know the impact you have.
Do you have advice for parents on how they can develop a love
for reading in their children?
Lisa: In Mem Fox’s book, Reading Magic,
she says that every child should have one thousand books read aloud to
them by the time they enter preschool. That sounds crazy, but it really
isn’t. If you read just 3 picture books a day, which takes only five to
ten minutes, you’ve met that goal. So, pick an old favorite, a classic
or one that a librarian recommended. I have parents coming up to me all
the time and say, “Oh , you picked the perfect book for my kid!”
What
books do
you recommend as read-alouds?
Lisa: We’re always looking for the new great
read-alouds. We have found that the number one question people ask us
is “What are the best books to read aloud?” So our children’s book
committee at Bank Street put together an ebook called Best Books to Read
Aloud with Children of All Ages. It’s not a comprehensive
list, but it’s a starting point. It helps you learn what we look for in
a good read-aloud. It answers questions, such as why and what are the
differences in read-alouds for different age groups, and how to be
interactive when reading aloud.
Do you find that teachers or librarians are sometimes
resistant to reading aloud?
Lisa: I don’t think they’re resistant, but I think
in this day and age people are expected to do things outside their
comfort zone. So, everything is practice. You can’t expect anyone to
read cold. You have to practice. That’s part of it. Sometimes, some
people feel self conscious.
What are some of the other key things you try to teach future
librarians?
Lisa: Even if somebody else is selecting the books
for your library’s collection, you have a professional responsibility
to read reviews and to read. There’s School Library Journal, Library
Journal, and VOYA. I read Horn Book. I read PW. I read Shelf Awareness.
I write for Earlyword.com.
This is your community that you joyously entered when you became a
librarian. There’s no down side to becoming a member of ALA. Not only
is it part of that professional responsibility, but it also give you
people to bounce things off of. You also have LM_net,
an online community of
school librarians. When I have a question, and I just don’t know the
answer, I give it to the group,
How do you define what a young adult book is and who’s it for? Perhaps
everyone you know is giving Hunger Games
to 5th graders, but you don’t want to give it to 5th graders. What do
you do? Well, maybe the answer is to not read aloud Hunger
Games to 5th graders, but don’t take it out of their hands. Those are
all professional questions you can ask the community to help you make
your choices.
How
do you hope to make an impact with the work you do?
Lisa: To get teachers reading. Teachers are busy and
overwhelmed. They’re dealing with so many different issues. But despite
all of that, I hope that they’re taking their kids either to their
school library or to their public library, that they’re asking for
recommendations and that they’re reading and sharing.
What do you enjoy most about being a librarian and teaching
teachers?
Lisa: It’s when you’re in the teaching moment and
the faces lights up. We have a picture book award that we give every
year that’s a children’s choice award (The Irma Black Award).
One of the four finalists is a book called All the Way to America
by Dan Yaccarino, which is a very quiet book about generations. He
comes from Italy to the United States with a shovel, and the shovel
gets passed down.
Just last Friday when I read it to the class, I turned the page and the
narrator’s voice says “And my father would take us into New York City
to the San Gennaro Festival, and we would eat Zeppelli and I love New
York City.” And you turn the page and “Now when I grew up, I moved back
to New York City where my great grandfather came to when he came from
Sorrento, Italy.” And you see the kids’ faces all of the sudden go
“Wait a minute. Wait a minute.” And the narrator continues, “And my
children use that shovel to dig and plant on the terrace of our
apartment and I’m a children’s book writer and illustrator.” And
they’re all going, “Dan! Dan! The author of the book, it’s his story.”
Even though it says in the title, The Story of an Italian Family that
came to America, these 6 year-olds suddenly light up and make the
connection. I think for every teacher, those are the moments that get
you past the hard times. These are the moments you live for.
The Irma Black Award for Excellence in Children's Literature
is a children’s choice award that goes to an outstanding book for young
children. Over 10,000 children across the United States participate in
the award, choosing four books as finalists from a field of sixteen
that have been selected by the Children’s Book Committee at Bank Street
College as a result of their reading over a thousand books published in
the previous year. The four finalists for the 2012 Irma Black Award are
All the Way to America
by Dan Yaccarino, I Want My Hat Back
by Jon Klassen, What Animals Really
Like by Fiona Robinson, and You Will Be My Friend
by Peter Brown. The list of semi-finalist can be found at bankstreet.edu/irmablack/semifinalists-2012/
and Lisa Von Drasek blogs about the progress of the award at blogs.slj.com/bank-street-irma-black-award/.
The winner of the award will be announced April 9th, 2012.
Now located in New York City just a few steps from Broadway,
Bank Street College of Education has been serving students, families,
schools and other non-profits, and the education policy community since
1916. It focuses on creating and understanding environments that enable
children to learn. Bank Street aims to carry out this mission
through engaging with children in classrooms, museums and other
settings. In addition, Bank Street prepares teachers for
these settings. And, through the activities of its faculty,
Bank Street preserves and generates new knowledge about the teaching
and learning environment.
(This librarian booktalk was originally posted on March 22, 2012
at kenbakerbooks.blogspot.com/2012/03/librarian-booktalk-with-lisa-von-drasek.html)
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